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Pi 4b vs 5

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 1:55 pm
by alex124.rh
Hi there, wondering if the dev or anyone else has some good numbers of boot times on pi 5 vs 4b. Ss vs ssd vs usb. Curious if pi5 is worth the extra cost and added costs with nvme hats

Re: Pi 4b vs 5

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:15 pm
by hudiy
To be honest, we haven't observed any significant differences in boot time between the Pi 5 and the Pi 4B.
Across all types of storage, it’s typically around 15–20 seconds.
We’ve always used the default configuration of Raspberry Pi OS - so there might still be some room for optimization in that area.

The biggest difference, however, is in the GPU.
If you plan to implement advanced visual elements (e.g. using Canvas in HTML), the Raspberry Pi 5 handles that much better.

Re: Pi 4b vs 5

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:33 pm
by wkl3968
My current OpenAuto Pro has a car logo during boot up and Pi4B took best 35s to boot. I'm going to try out Pi5. can hudiy load the car logo too?

Re: Pi 4b vs 5

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:48 pm
by alex124.rh
wkl3968 wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:33 pm My current OpenAuto Pro has a car logo during boot up and Pi4B took best 35s to boot. I'm going to try out Pi5. can hudiy load the car logo too?
mines is taking about 40 seconds. hence the ssd thoughts

Re: Pi 4b vs 5

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:05 pm
by hudiy
wkl3968 wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:33 pm My current OpenAuto Pro has a car logo during boot up and Pi4B took best 35s to boot. I'm going to try out Pi5. can hudiy load the car logo too?
Raspberry Pi OS uses Plymouth for boot animations. While Plymouth does support theming, the official documentation is quite limited.
You can find more information on pages related to other Linux distributions - for example:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/2007/ho ... bootscreen
Plymouth should work the same way regardless of the distribution.

Re: Pi 4b vs 5

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 6:28 am
by Zyox
hudiy wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:15 pm To be honest, we haven't observed any significant differences in boot time between the Pi 5 and the Pi 4B.
Across all types of storage, it’s typically around 15–20 seconds.
We’ve always used the default configuration of Raspberry Pi OS - so there might still be some room for optimization in that area.

The biggest difference, however, is in the GPU.
If you plan to implement advanced visual elements (e.g. using Canvas in HTML), the Raspberry Pi 5 handles that much better.
On an 8gig Raspi4b with v30 microSD I'm at 50-55 sec until Hudiy fully boots and plays music.
With openDash and no desktop raspian install (command line only) I can get to the same stage on the same system in 28seconds.

Can Hudiy run without the desktop install bloat?
Is there any streamlining of the default install I can do to help this bolt time? Except for an SSD.

Re: Pi 4b vs 5

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:03 am
by hudiy
50-55 seconds is quite a long time.
In one of our test setups (Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB + SD card) it takes about 23 seconds from power-on to a fully launched Hudiy.

Disabling /usr/bin/pcmanfm and /usr/bin/wf-panel-pi in /etc/xdg/labwc/autostart didn’t make much of a difference in boot time.

Hudiy is a windowed app, so labwc (the default window compositor on Bookworm) is generally required.
We haven’t tried running Hudiy on Bookworm without a desktop, though.

SD cards that we use in our setups: https://botland.store/microsd-sd-cards/ ... 30144.html

Re: Pi 4b vs 5

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:48 am
by hudiy
We’ve just measured the boot time with a 1280x720 screen (official Touchscreen II), and the system takes 28 seconds to boot.

With the 800x480 screen (official Touchscreen I), it’s ~23 seconds, as mentioned in the previous post.

It seems that the type of display - or more likely its resolution - might affect the boot time.

Re: Pi 4b vs 5

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:52 pm
by gwynethh
Does anyone have an RPI5 with an NVME booting drive? Wondering how that faster buss and device will shorten the boot time? TIA

Re: Pi 4b vs 5

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2025 5:26 am
by pault
gwynethh wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:52 pm Does anyone have an RPI5 with an NVME booting drive? Wondering how that faster buss and device will shorten the boot time? TIA
I'm about to test this with a Pi5 and DAC hat with NVMe... ill let yall know